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While I agree that not a single person living in the US, Canada, or Europe could survive on that wage, they’re probably looking for a low-cost provide...

That’s exactly why I posted it in the channel, so that it’s visible. And it’s not about surviving, it’s a legal standard.

Well, you’d have to check every single country then. The federal minimum wage in the U.S. is only $7.25/hr. This one is 20 hr/wk X 4 weeks = 80/month....

I’m not sure what you’re trying to accomplish here with your semantical exercise but it’s $15 an hour in my state. I’m glad you can do math. Hopefully...

I’m here if you need a hug.

“They should offer them a commensurate wage” _but_ I’ll _also take the time to do math to try to justify it anyway. And still be incorrect._

I totally agree that it's maybe not the best pay, but David is right in the fact that $850/month (middle of $600-$1100) is actually above the US minim...

It's a very entry level job though (6 months experience), this is well above the average or living wage is pretty much every country besides EU and US...

The point wasn’t whether this meets some global minimum. It’s about offering fair pay aligned with the region’s living standards and industry norms. I...

I think he said US-EU hours, not US-EU based. Very different things, I know a lot of people that work US hours but are EU based or EU hours that are A...

Yup, I know, but now you’ve got folks working overnight. Which, again, should demand add’l comp.

• *Location*: Remote (Worldwide, US/Europe hours)

Bruh I can read but you’re still missing the point

Never in my life would I expect people to line up to defend this concept. Let’s all be on the right side of people being aware of comp bands so that t...

If I were starting my career again, I would happily work at McDonald's making $7.25/hr and learning how to code at night. Now a job pops up saying yo...

I think it’s fair if you can look at it like that. It’s been since I was a teenager that I was paid at that rate.

But again it only helps people to know that this is not a good pay rate in the market

I totally understand where you're coming from, I really do, but it's an entry-level job and should be looked at as more of a starting point and not a ...

Use this job that doesn't pay very well as a way to gain experience on someone else's dime and leverage it into a job or salaried position that requir...

In 3 years you can be make 100 / hr.

I don’t know who you’re trying to convince. We are both saying it’s not good pay.

I think we're saying the same thing, no one is trying to take advantage of people that are willing to work a lower wage (or at least no one should be)

I think I said it too. :man-shrugging:

I really only hopped in here because it seems like you took a jab at David and I didn't think that was really fair, he's on our side of this discussio...

But then you guys both tried to legitimize it with math which is contrary to the message

flawed math at that

Your message was literally “not even minimum wage”….which is literally false.

It’s not false. It’s below minimum wage here.

Team, I think we're all on the same side here. It's technically US _federal_ minimum wage but just not in the state Gabriella is in.

If my kids went and got a job right now they would make twice that. And that’s what I want people to be aware of.

Put another way, the math works out to be minimum wage 80% of the time, but in 20% of states it's below that minimum.

Yeah but don’t even get me started on what the US federal government thinks is a fair minimum wage. The states where the minimum wage has been adjuste...

but I digress. I believe we have accomplished the goal of making folks aware that this role, esp should it transition to a full time position (as is m...

Hey folks, thank you for the thoughtful discourse here. Right now, we don’t have strict posting guidelines for this channel, other than that job opp...

I am from South Africa and a developer and that salary is a insult to even me

I wouldn’t work for anyone after all my studies for less than $35 per hour

Just jumping in to ask that we leave this thread here. I know Slack doesn’t let us officially close threads, but since this one has already covered a ...

Relativism at its best.... im sorry that makes me want to leave this slack

<@U0843GFTWJH> a few folks have reached out to me directly via DM and LinkedIn because they feared reprimand or retribution for speaking up in here. D...

It's not about reprimand or retribution - just curating the right conversations for the right spaces, and ensuring we have consistently enforced conve...